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Mar 27 08 1:05 PM

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Mar 27 08 1:07 PM

^^but are you talking about the US sales? I'm quite positive hunguponu was, because TGIFY was a hit mainly in the US. I don't know, but I had the idea that HU wasn't a huge seller in America: at least it didn't hang around for months in the US charts, did it? Of course it was a smash around the world/outside the US.

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Mar 27 08 1:11 PM

breakbreakdown wrote:
^^but are you talking about the US sales? I'm quite positive hunguponu was, because TGIFY was a hit mainly in the US. I don't know, but I had the idea that HU wasn't a huge seller: at least it didn't hang around for months in the US charts, did it?

Yes. It was a major download hit in the US. Radio just didn't play it. I'm not talking about Mariah at all though. I don't know how people can sit here and say the only reason Madonna's single is doing well on iTunes is because of Justin Timberlake when just over two years ago, she had a huge #1 download hit and had a bunch of album tracks charting in the iTunes 100 the week of the album release. Mariah fans need to stop acting like she's irrelevant and get over it.

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Mar 27 08 1:16 PM

If anything, Justin is helping Madonna more at radio and not iTunes. She was going to sell well regardless. But really - this song is just more appropriate for the US audience than "Hung Up".

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Mar 27 08 1:18 PM

do you think we're overconfident? i hope mariah gets to no.1 i'm just wonderinf if she will. it's still a lot more days to next week's charts.

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Mar 27 08 1:18 PM

The Rebirth Experience wrote:
breakbreakdown wrote:
The Rebirth Experience wrote:
hunguponu wrote:
This is sooooooo obvious Madonnas song is just selling cause it cares the "feat. Justin Timberlake" ... I reember when Mariah went #1 with Thank God I Found You and everybody was like "oh she needs them to be #1" But now that Madonna is close to #1 on iTunes everybody forgets that it is cause Justin and Timbaland are selling the song. Madonna is just featuring. I like Madonna, but lets just be honest. I wanted to see how Madonna would do if 4 minutes was just a Madonna song.

In Madonna's defense, "Hung Up" was a huge download hit, and "4 Minutes" is doing better in airplay in it's second week than "Hung Up" had at it's peak.

In hunguponu's defense, you should be comparing Hung Up's downlads to 4 Minutes' downloads: I'm quite positive 4Minutes will sell more than Hung Up image, so if 4 Minutes didn't feature Justin Timberlake, we would be celebrating image

I am comparing them. I'm saying if "Hung Up" could go to #1 in downloads and hang around for months and sell hundreds of thousands of singles, I don't see how people can say the only reason Madonna is selling anything is because of Justin Timberlake other than that a lot of Mariah fans just like to make +%*$ up to make Madonna look bad.

I never said Madonna wouldnt sell, I know she is a digital seller, and Im not a Madonna hater, I really like her and I dont like to compare her to MC, but as long as it is the new trend, Im doing it as well. What Im saying is that, madonna would never be a treat if she released a song by herself. She would sell a lot, just it. Radio wouldnt be playing 4 minutes if it wasnt a Justin + Timbaland song. Like it or not. I know she will eventually go #1, Ive already said that... But the fact that radio is playing this song just gives it power to be treat for the #1 spot on Hot100... not now...but in the furutre we know it will.

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Mar 27 08 1:20 PM

If Radio didn't play the track, how come Madonna be relevant in the American music scene? Just because it was a download hit in the US, that doesn't make Madonna relevant, does it? That's like saying Mariah was relevant in 2001!

COADF's US sales, one of the most hyped albums of this decade, proves my point. Madonna isn't a A list music star in the US. She was, once, but now she isn't. Plus, Hung Up had tons of promo and it only peaked at #7 (Hot 100), when sales were counting twice on the charts. It's not my thing to hate on Madonna, but 4 Minutes' major success is mainly due to Justin Timberlake. Or at least the reason 4 Minutes can prevent TMB from being #1 is Justin, and that's a given.

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Mar 27 08 1:21 PM

SexForYaStereo wrote:
^ Not to burst your bubble but "Hung Up" wasn't really a HUGE download hit. It didn't take much for it to reach #1 in 2005.

Not to burst your bubble, but it's all relative. It went to #1 ahead of all the other big radio hits at the same, and hung around long enough to sell over 500k downloads during a time that you yourself just admitted wasn't a huge time for downloads.

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Mar 27 08 1:24 PM

breakbreakdown wrote:
If Radio didn't play the track, how come Madonna be relevant in the American music scene? Just because it was a download hit in the US, that doesn't make Madonna relevant, does it? That's like saying Mariah was relevant in 2001!

COADF's US sales, one of the most hyped albums of this decade, proves my point. Madonna isn't a A list music star in the US. She was, once, but now she isn't. Plus, Hung Up had tons of promo and it only peaked at #7 (Hot 100), when sales were counting twice on the charts. It's not my thing to hate on Madonna, but 4 Minutes' major success is mainly due to Justin Timberlake. Or at least the reason 4 Minutes can prevent TMB from being #1 is Justin, and that's a given.

The single was a huge download hit, the album sold 2 million copies despite no radio hit, and she sold out a huge arena tour charging hundreds of dollars per ticket. That's relevance. It says a lot that even though radio chose not to play her, people still made her album one of the bigger sellers of the year and went out in droves to watch her perform.

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Mar 27 08 1:28 PM

Her name sold her 1.7 million copies. Clearly thats her fanbase, of about 1.5-2million people. The same, if not less, amount of people who went to see her tour. Charmbracelet had no top 10 hit, and sold 1.2 We all know how much of a flop, in comparison to everything else was. Yet when Madonna does it, its not seen under the same light. Child please!

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Mar 27 08 1:28 PM

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Madonna will be interviewed on FRIDAY at 6:30 AM and 8:30 AM on Chicago's B96 !! The station streams live!

AS WE KNOW. She will ALSO be on NY's Z100 at 4 PM ...

She's officially tryna promote now.

Thanks for the news image however, I think you may be confused about which board you're at On the other hand, I don't blame you--with all the talk of the Sagging Sea Trout in this thread, one may get confused (and more migraines). image

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Mar 27 08 1:28 PM

SuperLoverboy wrote:
And still managed only number 7. What about her second single? Third? Fourth? Yeeeaaaaahhh.. Ooooookkaaaaaay.. riiiiiiiiiiiiighht.

You guys can keep being delusional and attacking Madonna for the fact that she's way bigger than Mariah worldwide, but it doesn't change the facts. It's just immature and people are making excuses that aren't even true to try to build Mariah up over Madonna. I don't even understand why people get all threatened and competitive about it. Get over it, and enjoy Mariah's music and stop being little bitches about Madonna. It's really immature and annoying.

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Mar 27 08 1:32 PM

Not to burst your bubble, but it's all relative. It went to #1 ahead of all the other big radio hits at the same, and hung around long enough to sell over 500k downloads during a time that you yourself just admitted wasn't a huge time for downloads.

OF course it did. People only bought her single, and not that horrible unlistenable album. It's the same thing with Rihanna. The single (at least Rihanna had more than one LMAO!) blows up 'cause it's easier to spend 99cents instead of $10.00 - in the end, Madonna lost in the US.

So what'd she do? Grabbed Timbaland and JT, because she knows she's not relevant in the US on radio. If it wasn't for her fanbase buying the singles (the same crazed fans that spend $300 - $2,000 to see this woman on tour) her songs wouldn't even chart.

Madonna is not relevant. M. Dolla? Girl boo!

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Mar 27 08 1:32 PM

Confessions sold how much world wide? While TEOM sold 4million, plus the 6million from the US. YOU are the one delusional to believe the nonsese you're spewing. And the rest of the world isn't even a big market in terms of the US and Japan where Mariah consistently sells well. I'll admit that the british folk would eat up her $#!t if she served it to em on a compact disk!

#419 [url]

Mar 27 08 1:33 PM

SexForYaStereo wrote:
Not to burst your bubble, but it's all relative. It went to #1 ahead of all the other big radio hits at the same, and hung around long enough to sell over 500k downloads during a time that you yourself just admitted wasn't a huge time for downloads.

OF course it did. People only bought her single, and not that horrible unlistenable album. It's the same thing with Rihanna. The single (at least Rihanna had more than one LMAO!) blows up 'cause it's easier to spend 99cents instead of $10.00 - in the end, Madonna lost in the US.

So what'd she do? Grabbed Timbaland and JT, because she knows she's not relevant in the US on radio. If it wasn't for her fanbase buying the singles (the same crazed fans that spend $300 - $2,000 to see this woman on tour) her songs wouldn't even chart.

Madonna is not relevant. M. Dolla? Girl boo!

But people did buy her album. It sold 2 million copies in the US alone which was a hell of a lot more than many big radio artists were selling at the time.

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Mar 27 08 1:35 PM

The Rebirth Experience wrote:
SexForYaStereo wrote:
Not to burst your bubble, but it's all relative. It went to #1 ahead of all the other big radio hits at the same, and hung around long enough to sell over 500k downloads during a time that you yourself just admitted wasn't a huge time for downloads.

OF course it did. People only bought her single, and not that horrible unlistenable album. It's the same thing with Rihanna. The single (at least Rihanna had more than one LMAO!) blows up 'cause it's easier to spend 99cents instead of $10.00 - in the end, Madonna lost in the US.

So what'd she do? Grabbed Timbaland and JT, because she knows she's not relevant in the US on radio. If it wasn't for her fanbase buying the singles (the same crazed fans that spend $300 - $2,000 to see this woman on tour) her songs wouldn't even chart.

Madonna is not relevant. M. Dolla? Girl boo!

But people did buy her album. It sold 2 million copies which was a hell of a lot more than many big radio artists were selling at the time.

It didn't sell 2 million. It only sold 1.7M in the U.S....big enough of a difference if you ask me and wasn't her album released during the holiday season?

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