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Jan 25 07 11:59 AM

Ian was clearly anging for TV time

especially since he apparently did the same crap on that dance show. The fact that these shows give people like him airtime annoys me.

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Jan 25 07 12:06 PM

The first friend was hotter, but the second friend

definitely sang a lot better. I loved her voice.

I kinda liked the girl who had been through to Hollywood twice and sang "Lovin' You." I don't think she would win, but I'm surprised they rejected her. Still, once she went into her monologues (seriously, did she practice all of that?) I was done with her.

Do you guys think the girl whose dad didn't want her to come was telling the truth? When she called him he didn't see surprised or upset at all. I liked her voice. "Call Me" didn't fit it because her timbre is kinda jazzy. That happened last week, too (someone did "Call Me" but had a timbe that didn't fit).

They all raved about that 16 year-old from Bolivia, but I didn't think he was that great. The only guy I've really liked was that blues guy from the other night.

And was "Dreaming Of You" huge in New York? At least three people did that song.

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Jan 25 07 12:20 PM

Contestants can come back as long as

they didn't make it to the point where people vote (i.e. past Hollywood week).

The segment where they showed the judges butchering names was funny. I love how Simon says the names like they are 100% correct but has no clue :lol

I liked the girl with "3 voices," too, but only as a singer. She was annoying as a personality. I thought she sounded like Fiona Apple on her first 2 songs.

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Jan 25 07 12:41 PM

Chris Daughtry has been selling well and

his song just took off at radio in the past couple of weeks. Wasn't his debut total higher than Taylor's?

And I just looked, and as of the new chart, Taylor is at 587k sold. He isn't even at 600k yet!! Terrible.

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Jan 25 07 3:49 PM

Everyone should keep coming back then!

I always wonder what happens to those people, in general, who had pretty good voices, but just happened to barely miss the cut.

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Jan 25 07 6:28 PM

But how was the song helping his album

back around Christmas when it barely had any impressions? Are you saying if Taylor had a song at #50 at Pop radio right now he would miraculously be in the top 20?

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Jan 25 07 9:04 PM

How did Daughtry's song barely have any impressions?

Around Christimas didn't it have like around 20+ million impressions? The new Fall Out Boy song has around that.

I think something with 20 million impressions is better than something with 0 impressions. And not even 0 impressions because it flopped. 0 impressions because it hasnt beeen released yet.

Where did the #50 at Pop figure come from? I think if Taylor had as much airplay as Chris, he would be in the Top 20 ;)

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Jan 25 07 9:57 PM

I don't get where a song having

20 million impressions - which means far less than 20 million people are hearing it - would be the difference in an album being top 10 and top 50. Plus, Daughtry didn't even have a video until 1-2 weeks ago. In my opinion, the album was basically selling off his name alone until the last few weeks. The album is just now starting to sell based on the song. Also, Ludacris' new song is doing better than 20 million impressions, and his album is still hovering in the 50s. Hellogoodbye is around there with their current single, and where is their album?

Anyway, there is no way to "prove" Taylor would or wouldn't be doing dramatically different with a middling single, so I guess we've said all we can say. We can see if the album rises back up the charts now that a song has been released to radio.

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Jan 26 07 12:57 AM

WHY Don't I help you out! TAYLOR IS DONE!!!!!

It doesnt matter if he releases 5 singles, his album is not going to be a huge hit, and plus there is nothing on his album that would be a massive hit anyway, He can have some okay singles, and that will stablize his album from falling out of the BB200! But he won't do anything more than platinum!!

Its not just him thats sturggling though: Fantasia, Ruben, and Clay Who all did well with thier solo CD are not doing that good either, so I doubt Taylor will have a long carier!!

Just calling it as I see it, I'm still shocked that he even won the competition, I mean I thought Paula and Randy were doing him a favor by letting him through cause he had the old soul and was entertaining on the stage, but To actually be a long term artist with a strong following? He doesn't have it and I don't know if he ever will!!

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Jan 26 07 1:18 AM

Simon said the other day that he doesn't think

Taylor would have won if he didn't have gray hair. I think I agree :o Taylor was basically someone who got by on personality and a sort of kitsch factor. When you take away the performance aspect, you are left with an average (at best) singer. When you then add in that his music doesn't really fit the current music climate, you get a flop.

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Jan 26 07 2:16 AM

Isn't saying that Taylor won because he had gray hair

like saying Carrie only won because she's blonde and fairly attractive? ;) (And I would be more inclined to believe that, and not just because its Carrie :b )

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When you then add in that his music doesn't really fit the current music climate, you get a flop.


Well, Kelly is the only singer who has done music that fits into the current music climate. Ruben and Fantasia's UAC isn't popular. Carrie's country isn't popular. Clay's AC isn't popular. So I don't see why the Idol should be forced to do popular music.

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Jan 26 07 2:27 AM

Huh?

You don't think having more airplay makes a difference in album sales? That is definitely going to make a difference between the Top 10 and 50, especially for that type of song.

What do you mean the album is just now starting to sell the album? The album has like never left the Top 11 or something. Daughtry's video didnt come out until like a week ago, but his song has been at radio since early December, so its obvious thats been helping it. What do Ludacris and Hellogoodbye have to do with this? I was comparing those two since because of their similar origins, but we know obviously its not a linear scale for everyone.

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Anyway, there is no way to "prove" Taylor would or wouldn't be doing dramatically different with a middling single, so I guess we've said all we can say. We can see if the album rises back up the charts now that a song has been released to radio.


Even if the album doesn't recover, it wouldnt be fair to call it a flop either. Who sends singles to radio two months after they come out? Most people would probably not sell as well with a two month late single.

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Jan 26 07 2:37 AM

I forgot to add, I liked that girl

who couldn't sing, but wanted to be the next Amercian Idol, to prove a point. It was very "philosophical", and you have to give her props for her twisted logic and courage. :lol

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Jan 26 07 11:34 AM

Who said the Idol should be forced to do popular music?

And surely Carrie's being blonde and attractive helped her win; I doubt anyone could deny that. But she has singing talent, too, and you don't sell 5 million copies of a CD just because you are attractive.

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Jan 26 07 11:38 AM

Of course airplay can make a difference, but

Chris' album has been selling well all along despite not having notable airplay until the past few weeks. Hasn't his album been top 10-20 since it dropped? Back in December it's not like his song was doing much. My point is that Chris' middling airplay early on wasn't enough to help him stay top 10, so I don't see that as an excuse regarding Taylor who fell quickly.

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Jan 26 07 2:25 PM

Think of it like this

Even if you don't think Chris's airplay was significant, at least it was something. In the first few weeks, let's say people bought the album because they were fans of him. However, after that time, the single kicked in for support.

The same applies to Taylor. First few weeks, people bought the album because they were fans of him. But afterwards, with no single kicking in, what is supposed to support him?

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Jan 26 07 2:32 PM

Then why did you bring up his genre?

His music doesn't fit into the current music climate, but I think a more accurate statement would be to say that there isn't really a format for his type of music. UAC and Country aren't popular, but at least they have radio formats to back them up.

No one said Carrie was a total 0 in talent. She can sing, but so can Taylor. And what do Carrie's sales have to do with this? "Talented" people can have flop records, and "untalented" people can have huge hits.

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