carlos b fly wrote:
Hakeem wrote:She kinda tried that edgy stuff in the Butterfly album - mainly with "The Roof" song and video.
So watching Beyoncé be on top of the world at the VMAs made me want to revisit this question which manu of us has asked here before. Why do you think Beyoncé has been able to consistently maintain her massive young mainstream appeal while Mariah hasn't? If you think about it, Beyoncé started in 97 (just 7 years after Mariah). For me it has to do with Mariah's unidimensionality. She has always been all about the voice, and lacked in a lot of other aspects (i.e. dancing and overall performance). There's also her reluctance to leave her music niche (R&B) and even in that genre, I can't imagine her doing edgy more current urban stuff like Rihanna or Beyoncé. What do you all think?
"My All" video was also a step in that territory, maybe.
I could see she pulling this off back in 97 but not anymore... her personality just changed so much and the public wouldn't buy it.
Which is a shame because I'd like to see Mariah push the genre more. She should absolutely stay in R&B, with only the greatest concession being the odd bit of a pop/R&B lean, but the genre she's in is where she belongs. However (and I've said this before), I think Mariah is almost celebrating the genre more than innovating it anymore. I'd like to see her expand her sound beyond the throwbacks or 90's celebrations and try and do more what Beyoncé or Rihanna has done - take the sound in a more creative, edgy, fresh direction.
One of the things I love about Drake is hearing sounds you don't normally encounter in the genre. It sounds so unique and distinct.
I think Mariah could benefit a bit from taking this approach and sonically expanding what R&B/urban can sound like.
For sure, no one can deny Mariah has been a major innovator in the urban/pop music scene back in the 90s. She had the cool factor then (specially during "Butterfly" when her music and lyric themes stopped being overly cute and sugary). But the fact is, like Carlos says, she is not innovating anymore (one could argue that, sonically, more recents songs like "Ribbon" or maybe "Dedicated" sound fresh and original...but in the end her work as a whole usually seems to be looking back to her former glory instead of pushing for that "I've never heard this before" from the public, like how she used to do).