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Jun 17 14 11:23 PM

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A new series of these is airing. 2001 aired tonight, and they covered Mariah on TRL. One dude commented that he loved it because it was the middle of the day and she was showing her booty; "It's like 3pm, this is all I got" smiley: laugh Another dude said it was only half the meltdown Britney had since she didn't shave her head or trash things.

I assume she will be covered again in 2005 and maybe 2008 or 2009.
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Jun 17 14 11:26 PM

such a great moment. we all should relive it!

 

i remember when fomm was truly psycho back in like 2005, you'd be banned for even mentioning this appearance smiley: laugh

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Jun 18 14 12:12 AM

The "strip" part was so overblown by the media.
Having seen so many of her TV appearances, she really had never acted like this prior to it.
"These ain't my f...these are just so folks on the nice street." Classic.
"Alright, whoa, yes!" Especially, the "yes" at 2:41 with bow is classic.
She never hosted that Live And Almost Legal.
"Careful, careful, easy, easy, take it slow."
She talked about the mall appearance the following day where Cindi grabbed the mic.

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Jun 18 14 2:44 AM

Urrghh I think it was Carson who blew that whole thing he was acting SOOO oTT. "What are you doing". Over and over and over "she has lost her mind..,". Then he tried to clean it up a tiny bit after the break by saying "I said what are you doing cause you're a huge superstar... " Had he kinda played into it it wouldn't have raised red flags!!!

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Jun 18 14 3:47 AM

Mariah10Carey88 wrote:
i remember when fomm was truly psycho back in like 2005, you'd be banned for even mentioning this appearance smiley: laugh
I remember it was even worse back in the CB era, like, even if you complained about the vocals on CB it was enough to make people go nuts smiley: laugh



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Jun 18 14 9:30 AM

Gospelartist03 wrote:
Urrghh I think it was Carson who blew that whole thing he was acting SOOO oTT. "What are you doing". Over and over and over "she has lost her mind..,". Then he tried to clean it up a tiny bit after the break by saying "I said what are you doing cause you're a huge superstar... " Had he kinda played into it it wouldn't have raised red flags!!!
I agree, Carson is/was a tool and made it worse. Having said that, the real reason this blew up was her hospitalization a week later. This appearance didn't get a ton of press coverage until she was hospitalized, and then of course the media looked for clues of what had gone wrong. I also agree the "stripping" part was way overblown (and still is), but she was clearly spiraling in that TRL appearance.

Who ended up headlining the Live and Legal thing?

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Jun 18 14 11:24 AM

Wow I didn't remember she came right after Jlo's video lol, and she just started singing Loverboy over the stolen sampler I wonder if it was on purpose

I don’t want no cake on my birthday, errday errrday.

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Jun 18 14 11:33 AM

Gospelartist03 wrote:
Urrghh I think it was Carson who blew that whole thing he was acting SOOO oTT. "What are you doing". Over and over and over "she has lost her mind..,". Then he tried to clean it up a tiny bit after the break by saying "I said what are you doing cause you're a huge superstar... " Had he kinda played into it it wouldn't have raised red flags!!!

I've always said that!It was all that prick!Suchhhh cheap overracting-What are you doing x101 to try and sensationalize and be a part of this!
I can't believe anyone in their right mind thought she was actually going to  really strip!Ridiculous!Not to mention she usually has less clothes on than this.

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Jun 18 14 11:51 AM

In carson's defense, what would you do if a global superstar showed up to your little show unannounced as you're about to toss to break and started acting like that? he had nothing prepared. she was acting erratic and crazy and he had to say something. i do think the word "strip" was picked up on by the media simply because its the word carson chose to use. she hardly put on a "stripshow" as the media made it out. i personally think MC had a cocaine problem in the early 2000s. i can certainly see her misusing it w the amount of nonstop work she was doing. i also remember my brother telling me he heard she was from her tour bus driver. obviously no way to know if it is true.

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Jun 18 14 2:51 PM

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I think she was on adderall

Funny enough, I had my own suspicions she was on adderall before--but AFTER the breakdown, not before it.  Mariah acted really scatterbrained in that TRL appearance, and adderall is supposed to help people focus.  It also can cause dry mouth, and we've seen Mariah using these before, and her live voice in the late 2000s sound pretty much exactly like someone trying to sing with dry mouth; it also suppresses appetite and helps some people lose weight; and while it does help people focus, it also can make them impulsive and jump right into big decisions.  Adderall would pretty much explain the whole E=MC2 era to me :

FluffyP13 wrote:
In carson's defense, what would you do if a global superstar showed up to your little show unannounced as you're about to toss to break and started acting like that? he had nothing prepared. she was acting erratic and crazy and he had to say something.

Well, it wasn't completely unplanned-- Mariah was there to announce she was headlining MTV's 20th Anniversary concert (which of course she had to pull out of because of her hospital stay; I still wish we could've seen what she would have done).  She just came out at the wrong time, and I think Carson's initial "What are you doing?" might have been genuine (TRL shoots were very tightly-controlled, someone breaking script would very much put a wrench into things) and I think he tried to play up the 'crazy' angle to make it appear more fun and less like 'Technical Difficulties'.

Also I think this event gets cited more than it really ought to mostly because it's the only real video evidence we have of Mariah's breakdown.  I'm actually amazed at how well Mariah's team managed to keep that whole thing out of the public eye as much as they could; we never even got Patricia's 911 call, and those are public record!  So if you want to talk about Mariah's breakdown and make it interesting, you pretty much have to show this thing and try to play up the crazy bits as much as you can.

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i personally think MC had a cocaine problem in the early 2000s. i can certainly see her misusing it w the amount of nonstop work she was doing. i also remember my brother telling me he heard she was from her tour bus driver. obviously no way to know if it is true.

I have a hard time seeing this.  Mariah's not above using some substances, but she definitely seeks more chilled-out stuff like weed or alcohol.  Also, the media definitely would have picked up on any hard drug use, it's hard to cover that up if tabloids really, really wanted to know.

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Jun 18 14 4:15 PM

her speaking voice def had that weed smoker thing going on during 2001. i dont think there's any doubt. cocaine tho...im sure shes done it at some point in her life but doubt she ever had an addiction problem.

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Jun 18 14 5:17 PM

She was way worse on a previous TRL promo spot during the Rainbow era, in my opinion. The one where she was in the shower. I agree with Jason. This would have been ignored if the breakdown didn't happen a week later.

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Jun 20 14 12:04 AM

I just saw the one for 2005. No Mariah. She wasn't on the 2005 one when they did I Love The New Millenium either, despite having the top album and single of the year. Plus, it was a huge comeback. WTF?!?!

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Jun 20 14 9:56 AM

WYC9 wrote:
She could still be featured in 2008 for the shot gun wedding or 2009 for Precious.

Yeah, maybe the wedding, but that would still be ridiculous. I think the "TMB" and/or "Obsessed" videos would be worthy. But still, they ran through the 90s twice and have now run through 2005 twice and never mentioned Mariah. That is straight up ridiculous! smiley: mad

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Jun 20 14 6:10 PM

MisplacedValidity wrote:
WYC9 wrote:
She could still be featured in 2008 for the shot gun wedding or 2009 for Precious.

Yeah, maybe the wedding, but that would still be ridiculous. I think the "TMB" and/or "Obsessed" videos would be worthy. But still, they ran through the 90s twice and have now run through 2005 twice and never mentioned Mariah. That is straight up ridiculous! smiley: mad


Wow she is not the 90s version as well? that indeed is ridiculous.

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Jun 20 14 8:22 PM

hontasy wrote:
MisplacedValidity wrote:
WYC9 wrote:
She could still be featured in 2008 for the shot gun wedding or 2009 for Precious.

Yeah, maybe the wedding, but that would still be ridiculous. I think the "TMB" and/or "Obsessed" videos would be worthy. But still, they ran through the 90s twice and have now run through 2005 twice and never mentioned Mariah. That is straight up ridiculous! smiley: mad


Wow she is not the 90s version as well? that indeed is ridiculous.
Nope. They did I Love the 90s and I Love the 90s Part Deux, and Mariah didn't get a segment in any year of either one.

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