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Nov 6 13 8:56 AM

You could never offend me. That would mean I would have to take you seriously. Anyway, you made your comments directly after my post and that is why I responded. I'm not one to shy away from confrontation, especially if a post was directed at me whether it was partially or entirely done so.

Ignorance is your unfactual made up stereotypes you just pulled out of your a**. And what you said was completely pointless because this is not an Eminem board and posters here don't have to respect him or give any type of positive nod to his work. If people want to hate, let them hate. You are not the police guard.

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Nov 6 13 8:58 AM

Colson wrote:
And what you said was completely pointless because this is not an Eminem board and posters here don't have to respect him or give any type of positive nod to his work. If people want to hate, let them hate. You are not the police guard.
I agree with you on this very much. Shockersmiley: tongue




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Nov 6 13 9:08 AM

Colson wrote:
You could never offend me. That would mean I would have to take you seriously. laugh.gif Anyway, you made your comments directly after my post and that is why I responded. I'm not one to shy away from confrontation, especially if a post was directed at me whether it was partially or entirely done so.

Ignorance is your unfactual made up stereotypes you just pulled out of your a**. And what you said was completely pointless because this is not an Eminem board and posters here don't have to respect him or give any type of positive nod to his work. If people want to hate, let them hate. You are not the police guard.
well u acted offended and defensive and u still are. no, my post was not directed at u, and from what i gathered from ur posts over the years, u are not gay. what exactly was unfactual  or made up? and i dont get the last part because i never said people had to respect his work or give him positive nods, nor did i say people could not hate. it was not my intent in any way to 'police' anything and i dont think my post suggested thats what i was trying to do.



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Nov 6 13 9:15 AM

I mean maybe I'm reading too much into it, but lately it seems like you are being disagreeable just for the sake of being disagreeable. Like you are intentionally trying to pick fights for the sake of entertainment, especially when someone says something negative against an artist that you like, i.e., Lady Gaga, Beyonce, etc.

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Nov 6 13 9:20 AM

Colson wrote:
I mean maybe I'm reading too much into it, but lately it seems like you are being disagreeable just for the sake of being disagreeable. Like you are intentionally trying to pick fights for the sake of entertainment, especially when it someone says something an artist that you like, i.e., Lady Gaga, Beyonce, etc.
even if that were true (which its not) i dont see how that is the case with the post i made here. if anything i feel like u picked a fight with me. and i'm still unclear on what u found ignorant or a stereotype.

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Nov 6 13 9:33 AM

Yeah, his fan base is filled with delusional straight white males that live in their mom's basements and smoke meth all day lol. They WORSHIP the f*cker. He is like their messiah.

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Nov 6 13 10:51 PM

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the funny part is that for the most part, only gay males dislike him, but that's understandable. his core fan base is not gay males tho. so all
the gay males in here b!tching about him, just know, u are not his fan base and yall are not the ones that made him who he is. so that's why he
is still popular. straight white males love him and will probably continue to support him. And if I'm not mistaken, white males make up the largest portion
of album buyers in America. It's funny yall say things like he is a one trick pony yet u stan for Mariah who has been singing about the same things
for over 2 decades. he doesnt have to change what he raps about to stay popular, clearly. I dont think any artist has to.

Me personally, a black female, I do not really care for his music but I recognize and respect his one-of-a-kind flow and his word play. I think
The Monster is a good track, his best single since Mockingbird.

        I get what you're saying,  but I'm a gay male that loves rap music,  and I don't have that knee jerk reaction to him because of some of his homophobic lyrics.  But to me his rap style just gets tiring after a few tracks.  He's amazing at what he does,  but it's all the same.  It's become very robotic and cold. 

Comparing him to Mariah though is a major fail imo. She's a singer that can change emotions with every note.  She's far from an emotionless robot. 

I do like The Monster though... 

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Nov 7 13 12:58 AM

Johnny Roberts wrote:
esettle0 wrote:
the funny part is that for the most part, only gay males dislike him, but that's understandable. his core fan base is not gay males tho. so all
the gay males in here b!tching about him, just know, u are not his fan base and yall are not the ones that made him who he is. so that's why he
is still popular. straight white males love him and will probably continue to support him. And if I'm not mistaken, white males make up the largest portion
of album buyers in America. It's funny yall say things like he is a one trick pony yet u stan for Mariah who has been singing about the same things
for over 2 decades. he doesnt have to change what he raps about to stay popular, clearly. I dont think any artist has to.

Me personally, a black female, I do not really care for his music but I recognize and respect his one-of-a-kind flow and his word play. I think
The Monster is a good track, his best single since Mockingbird.

        I get what you're saying,  but I'm a gay male that loves rap music,  and I don't have that knee jerk reaction to him because of some of his homophobic lyrics.  But to me his rap style just gets tiring after a few tracks.  He's amazing at what he does,  but it's all the same.  It's become very robotic and cold. 

Comparing him to Mariah though is a major fail imo. She's a singer that can change emotions with every note.  She's far from an emotionless robot. 

I do like The Monster though... 

oh ok, so two artists that write about the same things their whole career are not comparable if one of them writes about the same things but show emotion. anyways I dont think Em is an emotionless robot so ur point is not taken on this end.

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Nov 7 13 1:07 AM

That's fine. It obviously doesn't matter what I think anyway. Eminem could fart over a beat, and his stans would eat it up. 

Personally, he gets more boring and predictable with each release.

I agree with this assessment:

"MMLP2 makes it more plain than ever that Eminem is among a growing number of rap superstars who are little more than vestigial pieces shoehorned onto radio by inertia alone. The main takeaway of MMLP2 is that Eminem fails to realize that the formulas that worked so well for him in 1999 are at best tired and tame today, and can't be saved by his lyrical dexterity".
 

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Nov 7 13 1:22 AM

Johnny Roberts wrote:
 

Personally, he gets more boring and predictable with each release.


 

I agree with that too. like I said before I'm not a fan. he's had songs here and there I've liked but I'm not into his music. I just think he has a great flow and word play. but to me it's like a singer having a great voice but still making lame songs (see Jennifer Hudson and Leona Lewis).

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Nov 7 13 4:03 PM

AllMusic gives MMLP2 4 stars (out of 5)

After centering himself with the confessional 2010 release Recovery, Eminem entered his forties while watching his beloved city of Detroit literally go bankrupt. The cover here displays this descent with an updated picture of the rapper's teenage home, first featured on the MM LP of 2000 but now boarded up, and yet this 8 Mile child cares much more about the present than the past, as this vicious, infectious, hilarious triumph is no nostalgia trip, just the 2013 version of Marshall the experienced maverick on a tear, dealing with the current state of events and kicking up dust with his trademark maniac attack while effortlessly juggling his over-40 wisdom with stuff you'd slap a teenager for saying. Key cut "Rap God" is the quintessential track as it blasts out homophobic cut-downs and other inexcusable lyrics, because Marshall's the "Dale Earnhardt of the trailer park," but "I still rap like I'm on my Pharoahe Monch grind," and suddenly his Stan Lee-like origin story begins to take shape. Marshall is a super villain so familiar with hate and depression, he's powered by all shades of anger. Be it pissing off the neighbors (rocking the house with a some Beastie Boys and Billy Squier samples on the Rick Rubin-produced party starter "Bezerk") or being threatened by critics (and his biggest ever, too, as "Bad Guy" revisits the MM LP character "Stan" via his revenge-obsessed brother Matthew), it all feeds into his super nova, and it’s a unique spectacle when it explodes. It does so gloriously on the stately arena rap anthem "Survival," which injects the listener with martial beats and a pre-game pep talk worth hearing. "%@!*!++" takes the decidedly low road to destruction, slapping girls "off the mechanical bull, at a tractor pull" while using controversy to make the front page, then offering the idea that he's "white America's mirror, so don't feel awkward or weird," because there's no sense in leaving the sewer if you don't crawl out enlightened. Love it or hate it, nourishing his same old murder fantasies is what drives Eminem to make the vital music found here, and yet there's room for polished and clever frivolity on the album. The grand "Love Game" with Kendrick Lamar whips a Wayne Fontana "Game of Love"-sample into a thrilling swagger cut, while "So Far…" re-edits Joe Walsh's "Life's Been Good" so the Madden and MP3 generation can also understand the sweet irony of mansions filled with Kool-Aid-stained couches. Silly, manipulated voices and all, "The Monster" with Rihanna offers insight with its "I get along with the voices inside my head" attitude, then "Headlights" ups the game and offers mom an apology, referencing his earlier hit "Cleaning Out My Closet" and explaining it as an angry and irresponsible moment. Funny thing is, most of the best moments on MM LP2 are just as angry, and just as irresponsible, but like "Closet," this is the tortured soul and self-reliance ninja known as Eminem at his very best.

http://www.allmusic.com/album/the-marshall-mathers-lp-2-mw0002583498

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Nov 12 13 5:04 PM

SH*TTING smiley: eek

CHART DATE: 11/11/2013
LAST UPDATE: 11/12/2013 12:49:36
NOW IN: FINAL

-- 1 EMINEM SHADY/AFTERMATH/INT 779,577 --
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Nov 13 13 2:26 AM

Eminem's 'Marshall Mathers LP 2' Scores Second-Biggest Debut of Year selling 792,000.

Eminem's albums are in the top 120 best sales weeks in the Soundscan era.

3 6/10/2000 The Marshall Mathers LP Eminem
5 6/15/2002 The Eminem Show Eminem
29 12/4/2004 Encore Eminem
41 6/22/2002 The Eminem Show Eminem
43 6/17/2000 The Marshall Mathers LP Eminem
44 11/16/2013 The Marshall Mathers LP 2 Eminem
54 7/10/2010 Recovery Eminem
66 11/27/2004 Encore Eminem
112 6/6/2009 Relapse Eminem
119 6/24/2000 The Marshall Mathers LP Eminem

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Nov 26 13 1:27 PM

6. EMINEM – The Monster f/Rihanna: 131.845 (+ 5.539)

This will probably be #1 in airplay within the next 2 weeks. And it's definitely looking at least a 1+ month stay at #1 on the Hot 100.

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Nov 26 13 3:20 PM

13th #1 for Robyn Rihanna Fenty!!!!

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