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Aug 25 16 3:10 PM

I love Usher and am always kind of excited to see him return but I'm so cautious now. I just don't know what I'm getting anymore, he's compromised and sold out his brand too much. I'm here for cool R&B Usher bit no interest at all at God awful EDM sell out rubbish.

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Aug 26 16 12:04 PM

This is the track you get with the album pre-order. I like the production of the chorus:



Sounds like Timbaland, which is nice if it is because it feels different from him. 

  
  

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Sep 17 16 6:07 PM

Has the selling out really come back to bite him on the ass and his audience have jumped ship? I wasn't expecting crazy numbers but he's had hits recently and is pretty much R&B royalty by this stage. Those numbers are what I'd expect from Keri Hilson or Ciara (on a bad day).

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Sep 17 16 6:52 PM

Depressing.


And we thought 58k for Mariah was doomsday. I fear for the next album..

  
  

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Sep 18 16 2:32 PM

Wow. That is beyond pitiful. But as I've said before I think he totally alienated his core fan base with the phony EDM bandwagon-jumping. He should've stuck with r&b even if it was 'out' at the time.


  

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Sep 18 16 4:12 PM

carlos b fly wrote:
Has the selling out really come back to bite him on the ass? 

That and "No Limit" (aka the single currently getting played at radio) is too generic. His promotion was also MIAM release week level. A mess. 

  
  

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Sep 18 16 7:03 PM

mcfan wrote:
carlos b fly wrote:
Has the selling out really come back to bite him on the ass? 

That and "No Limit" (aka the single currently getting played at radio) is too generic. His promotion was also MIAM release week level. A mess. 

But.....but he had an album launch concert that Ramona and Dorinda went to?!!! smiley: laugh

  

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BeyondIdolization wrote:
Wow. That is beyond pitiful. But as I've said before I think he totally alienated his core fan base with the phony EDM bandwagon-jumping. He should've stuck with r&b even if it was 'out' at the time.


I remember discussing this during his last album (maybe because of weak sales or flop singles too, I can't remember) but people were saying then that his albums were going to divide his audience too much and deal both halves out. If you liked the EDM pop, you'd be put off by the R&B or vice versa if you were an R&B lover. You just don't know what you're investing in when you pick up his album anymore.

There's just not enough of a connection between those two genres to make it work. He really should have stuck to making R&B and trying to push it with cooler, more chart current sounds like The Weeknd or what not. He didn't need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

A shame in all honesty, as I regard Usher the last of the successful male R&B greats.
  

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Sep 19 16 10:53 AM

carlos b fly wrote:
mcfan wrote:
carlos b fly wrote:
Has the selling out really come back to bite him on the ass? 

That and "No Limit" (aka the single currently getting played at radio) is too generic. His promotion was also MIAM release week level. A mess. 

But.....but he had an album launch concert that Ramona and Dorinda went to?!!! smiley: laugh

Dorinda was getting all kinds of LIFE from it on her Instagram story

  
  

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Sep 19 16 1:07 PM

damn this is nelly furtado level bad and my feed right now is full of anyone that has ever met usher pimping his album, you know its bad when the D list is trying to rally the troops for you.

It'll hopefully give him a chance to hit the reset button, he probably needs to take time off and make people miss him, it feels like all his recent eras run together with constant singles

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Sep 19 16 2:56 PM

The album isn't bad though. It's actually cohesive and gives a lot of space to R&B.

Perhaps it's too contemporary, but there are a few songs that stand out like "Missin U" and "Tell Me" are jams.

  
  

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Sep 21 16 12:26 PM

carlos b fly wrote:
BeyondIdolization wrote:
Wow. That is beyond pitiful. But as I've said before I think he totally alienated his core fan base with the phony EDM bandwagon-jumping. He should've stuck with r&b even if it was 'out' at the time.


I remember discussing this during his last album (maybe because of weak sales or flop singles too, I can't remember) but people were saying then that his albums were going to divide his audience too much and deal both halves out. If you liked the EDM pop, you'd be put off by the R&B or vice versa if you were an R&B lover. You just don't know what you're investing in when you pick up his album anymore.

There's just not enough of a connection between those two genres to make it work. He really should have stuck to making R&B and trying to push it with cooler, more chart current sounds like The Weeknd or what not. He didn't need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

A shame in all honesty, as I regard Usher the last of the successful male R&B greats.
  


He might have gotten a couple of quick hits with the EDM at the time, but ultimately it alienated his core audience which is the last thing you want to do. Tbh I think it's because he's not a writer so he doesn't really know who he is as an artist; he probably listened to some A&R guy on what to do.
  


  

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Sep 21 16 6:11 PM

BeyondIdolization wrote:
carlos b fly wrote:
BeyondIdolization wrote:
Wow. That is beyond pitiful. But as I've said before I think he totally alienated his core fan base with the phony EDM bandwagon-jumping. He should've stuck with r&b even if it was 'out' at the time.


I remember discussing this during his last album (maybe because of weak sales or flop singles too, I can't remember) but people were saying then that his albums were going to divide his audience too much and deal both halves out. If you liked the EDM pop, you'd be put off by the R&B or vice versa if you were an R&B lover. You just don't know what you're investing in when you pick up his album anymore.

There's just not enough of a connection between those two genres to make it work. He really should have stuck to making R&B and trying to push it with cooler, more chart current sounds like The Weeknd or what not. He didn't need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

A shame in all honesty, as I regard Usher the last of the successful male R&B greats.
  


He might have gotten a couple of quick hits with the EDM at the time, but ultimately it alienated his core audience which is the last thing you want to do. 
  

Precisely. I think it was personally short sighted and suicidal. And look where it got him.
  

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Sep 29 16 6:37 PM

I like Rivals, Tell Me and Stronger. Rivals should've been the first single imo. Then send Stronger to Pop.The rest of the album sounds like the same long boring song to me.


  

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