MisplacedValidity wrote:she hasn't/ probably won't win this one either so ? I still don't get it. basically you're saying she would lie about a fake co-writing credit just for the possibility of getting a nomination of which she has had plenty? its not like she thought it would become a radio smash because of gaga.
except the academy? she just had an oscar nomination last year,
She's 0-for-7, though. 6 of those 7 were solo noms, and this latest song isn't even one that has the benefit of a high profile film. So, it definitely helps her chances to have Gaga attached. Again, Warren and others have literally said that was the point of bringing Gaga in. This isn't something anyone is assuming or pulling out of their butt.
I just think again we should take their word for it, the song was written gaga came along and had ideas to make it better especially melodically and hence she is a co-writer. I remember the big fuss when babyface got left out of the oscar for When you believe even though he was a co-writer for the whitney/mariah version because the academy went with the original score or something. So would you say he should not be listed as a co-writer?
To your first sentence, that's exactly what they were saying before the Oscar nomination (that Gaga was brought in for marketability). The quotes you are mentioning all came after the Oscar nom and Perry's tweet. Before that, no one was saying Gaga did anything to change the song. Everything was centered on Warren writing the song and Gaga being brought in to give it more attention. Of course they are now going to try and make it seem like Gaga was a big part of the song, they are going for the Oscar win.
Nile Rogers has actually talked about his involvement in the song; he even gave chord change suggestions. He's not credited as either a writer or a producer.
How much of "WYB" did Babyface change? I know the song he produced sounds a lot different than the version in the film, but is the actual song/writing different? You also have to consider that the Academy has very strict rules about Original Song (i.e. the song has to be written for the movie and it has to be used in the movie or at the start of the credits or something). I say that because it's also possible the Babyface version didn't get used in a way that made it eligible.