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3) She ends up the next Paula Abdul.

 

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Jan 1 12 8:55 PM

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3) She ends up the next Paula Abdul.
That will never happen, because Gaga is an actual artist and not a choreographer who happens to be able to carry a tune. A more appropriate comparison would be Cyndi Lauper.

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Jan 1 12 10:22 PM

*Yawns*

Same sh*t, different day.

I swear, if I had a nickel for every time you said GAGA WILL BE THE NEXT PAULA ABDUL   smiley: laugh

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Jan 1 12 11:42 PM

LegendaryShade wrote:
BeyondIdolization wrote:
3) She ends up the next Paula Abdul.
That will never happen, because Gaga is an actual artist and not a choreographer who happens to be able to carry a tune. A more appropriate comparison would be Cyndi Lauper.



Cyndi Lauper, Paula Abdul, who cares. Huge with their first album, second album did OK. Third album a huge flop they never recovered from. Just like Gaga their music is also disposable pop.

 

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Whatever idiot hailed Jennifer as the biggest comeback in music needs this list shoved in their eyes. The woman had nearly a year and couldn't even shift one million copies when Buble did 5 in less than two months with a Christmas album.
  

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Jan 2 12 5:54 PM

BeyondIdolization wrote:
LegendaryShade wrote:
BeyondIdolization wrote:
3) She ends up the next Paula Abdul.
That will never happen, because Gaga is an actual artist and not a choreographer who happens to be able to carry a tune. A more appropriate comparison would be Cyndi Lauper.



Cyndi Lauper, Paula Abdul, who cares. Huge with their first album, second album did OK. Third album a huge flop they never recovered from. Just like Gaga their music is also disposable pop.
Her music isn't "disposable" unless you're an elitist snob who considers all pop music disposable. Which you probably aren't, since you're on a Mariah Carey forum. 

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Jan 2 12 6:06 PM

^Hers isn't any less disposable than Paula Abdul's, Milli Vanilli's, etc.. 10 years from now I doubt anyone will care about her songs. She's not this great legendary artiste that you think she is.

 

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Jan 2 12 6:13 PM

BeyondIdolization wrote:
^Hers isn't any less disposable than Paula Abdul's, Milli Vanilli's, etc.. 10 years from now I doubt anyone will care about her songs. She's not this great legendary artiste that you think she is.
smiley: laugh Did Paula or Milli Vannilli ever have the highest grossing tour by a debut headlining artist? Please. No one said she's a legendary artist. But she's already accomplished more than those other acts ever did and it's pretty lame of you to belittle her like that just because you're not into her.

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Jan 2 12 6:23 PM

LegendaryShade wrote:
BeyondIdolization wrote:
^Hers isn't any less disposable than Paula Abdul's, Milli Vanilli's, etc.. 10 years from now I doubt anyone will care about her songs. She's not this great legendary artiste that you think she is.
smiley: laugh Did Paula or Milli Vannilli ever have the highest grossing tour by a debut headlining artist? Please. No one said she's a legendary artist. But she's already accomplished more than those other acts ever did and it's pretty lame of you to belittle her like that just because you're not into her.

I think some credit should be given to Paula.  Even without a re-release, her debut and second album sold more than Gaga's first two albums.  

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Jan 2 12 6:34 PM

NhWxMaN wrote:
LegendaryShade wrote:
BeyondIdolization wrote:
^Hers isn't any less disposable than Paula Abdul's, Milli Vanilli's, etc.. 10 years from now I doubt anyone will care about her songs. She's not this great legendary artiste that you think she is.
smiley: laugh Did Paula or Milli Vannilli ever have the highest grossing tour by a debut headlining artist? Please. No one said she's a legendary artist. But she's already accomplished more than those other acts ever did and it's pretty lame of you to belittle her like that just because you're not into her.

I think some credit should be given to Paula.  Even without a re-release, her debut and second album sold more than Gaga's first two albums.  

I wasn't really talking about album sales when I said accomplishments. Obviously, Paula was a very popular act.

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Jan 2 12 6:43 PM

LegendaryShade wrote:
BeyondIdolization wrote:
^Hers isn't any less disposable than Paula Abdul's, Milli Vanilli's, etc.. 10 years from now I doubt anyone will care about her songs. She's not this great legendary artiste that you think she is.
smiley: laugh Did Paula or Milli Vannilli ever have the highest grossing tour by a debut headlining artist? Please. No one said she's a legendary artist. But she's already accomplished more than those other acts ever did and it's pretty lame of you to belittle her like that just because you're not into her.


I don't know, but I know Paula's first tour was a big success. And her debut album was actually bigger than Gaga's, at least in the US (7+ million, 4 #1s). Then Spellbound did half that and only had 2 #1s. Then she was done. There's no reason the public won't move on from Gaga the way it did Paula.

 

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Jan 3 12 6:34 AM

While I'm not a huge Gaga fan, I think she has a lot more to offer than Paula. People find her interesting and invest in her because of that. It's not like she's completely void of content outside of her music in the public eye, like Rihanna, for instance.

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Jan 3 12 10:09 AM

BeyondIdolization wrote:
LegendaryShade wrote:
BeyondIdolization wrote:
^Hers isn't any less disposable than Paula Abdul's, Milli Vanilli's, etc.. 10 years from now I doubt anyone will care about her songs. She's not this great legendary artiste that you think she is.
smiley: laugh Did Paula or Milli Vannilli ever have the highest grossing tour by a debut headlining artist? Please. No one said she's a legendary artist. But she's already accomplished more than those other acts ever did and it's pretty lame of you to belittle her like that just because you're not into her.


I don't know, but I know Paula's first tour was a big success. And her debut album was actually bigger than Gaga's, at least in the US (7+ million, 4 #1s). Then Spellbound did half that and only had 2 #1s. Then she was done. There's no reason the public won't move on from Gaga the way it did Paula.


You are such a broken record with this LOL.

You sound like crazed Whitney fan, planning GaGa's demise.

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smiley: eek @ Adele.  I knew she had a big year, but I had no idea she was so far ahead of everyone else.  Good to know that talent still rises to the top though.

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kittykow105 wrote:
BeyondIdolization wrote:
LegendaryShade wrote:
BeyondIdolization wrote:
^Hers isn't any less disposable than Paula Abdul's, Milli Vanilli's, etc.. 10 years from now I doubt anyone will care about her songs. She's not this great legendary artiste that you think she is.
smiley: laugh Did Paula or Milli Vannilli ever have the highest grossing tour by a debut headlining artist? Please. No one said she's a legendary artist. But she's already accomplished more than those other acts ever did and it's pretty lame of you to belittle her like that just because you're not into her.


I don't know, but I know Paula's first tour was a big success. And her debut album was actually bigger than Gaga's, at least in the US (7+ million, 4 #1s). Then Spellbound did half that and only had 2 #1s. Then she was done. There's no reason the public won't move on from Gaga the way it did Paula.


You are such a broken record with this LOL.

You sound like crazed Whitney fan, planning GaGa's demise.




Although I think the world needs a break from Gaga, I know that a) we won't get it and it'll be a third album this year b) she can drop the fabled third album and will get a picture of whether she can endure, which seems to be the hottest topic her detractors weild and the lynchpin holding together her longterm career. Flop or florish with album three, we can at least stop the endless "aha but no!" downplays on all her accomplishments and the "she's finished!" routines.

Of course, if she shifts steady another 5 million with her next album I'm sure they'll be another angle to work against her. I'd be dissapointed if her haters didn't smiley: laugh

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kittykow105 wrote:
BeyondIdolization wrote:
LegendaryShade wrote:
BeyondIdolization wrote:
^Hers isn't any less disposable than Paula Abdul's, Milli Vanilli's, etc.. 10 years from now I doubt anyone will care about her songs. She's not this great legendary artiste that you think she is.
smiley: laugh Did Paula or Milli Vannilli ever have the highest grossing tour by a debut headlining artist? Please. No one said she's a legendary artist. But she's already accomplished more than those other acts ever did and it's pretty lame of you to belittle her like that just because you're not into her.


I don't know, but I know Paula's first tour was a big success. And her debut album was actually bigger than Gaga's, at least in the US (7+ million, 4 #1s). Then Spellbound did half that and only had 2 #1s. Then she was done. There's no reason the public won't move on from Gaga the way it did Paula.


You are such a broken record with this LOL.

You sound like crazed Whitney fan, planning GaGa's demise.

And you're a broken record with the non-arguments. Stan alert! For us here at planet Earth though, Gaga lasting is as likely as Kelly Clarkson selling 5 million again.

 

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Jan 6 12 5:21 AM

What actually shocks me even more is this:


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XL Recordings – 2,8 million copies

smiley: eek Isn't that album 4 years old now? My god. That's a better indicator of how stupendous this year has been for Adele. If this were the late 90s, she'd be doing Shania Twain numbers.

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BeyondIdolization wrote:
^Hers isn't any less disposable than Paula Abdul's, Milli Vanilli's, etc.. 10 years from now I doubt anyone will care about her songs. She's not this great legendary artiste that you think she is.
Isn't all music released nowadays 'disposable'? Even Adele's music is disposable imo. Who's gonna rave about Adele's music in 10 years time? She probably won't be able to sing in 10 years time.... I have a legit copy of '21' for anyone curious out there. 

Times have changed, people's attitudes have changed, the younger generation that grew up in the digital era's attitudes towards music are different to those born in the 70's/80's/90's, music preferences change over time etc. 

Since times have changed so much and is changing (at a rapid pace) it's harder to predict the future success of artists, hence record companies and artists are so interested in making disposable music (that sells), for the artists, they tour non stop and venture into every avenue possible to a) make money and b) stay relevant. Will Lady Gaga still be able to sell albums? Hard to tell, she has a huge digital following and herself and her team know what is necessary to help her sell and stay relevant, whether they will succeed it's hard to tell. Even if her 3rd flops why can't Lady Gaga have a 'comeback' like Mariah 5 years down the line? Does it even matter if she is able to sell records or not? She earns buckets just by touring, Celine Dion albums don't sell like hotcakes anymore, but she's filthy rich and she tours, touring is wear the money is at for singers nowadays anway - singers know this, singer release music in order to tour, no songs, no tour.  

In the 90's a singer was a singer, an actor was an actor, if a singer turned actor most people would have commented on how they should stick to their 'day' job, singers/singers/dancers alike now need to ho themselves out into everything and anything. 

Entertainment/Music use to be simpler, yes the studio's and record companies etc. had total control, ripped off the consumer and made loads of money, but at least this control and money they earned meant there were quality products (to some degree), now because the consumers have much more power, the tides have changed, everyone thinks they can be the 'next big thing', YouTube, talent show TV etc. entertainment has gotten stale too much, too fast, too easy, little risks involved, 'I don't give a sh!t attitude'....

Entertainment is a luxury, not a necessity, it's like eating your favourite chocolate everyday, every year, for free, not only do you get greedy and fat, you take it for granted, eventually lose interest in it, get sick of it and not appreciate it for what it is. 

I'm cold and don't know what I'm rambling on about... gonna snuggle up next to my heater...

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