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Mar 18 10 8:18 PM

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It's a solid effort. I don't like it as much as Memoirs or TEOM, but it's miles ahead of Emotions, Rainbow, Glitter, and Charmbraclet. Migrate, IBLULT, For The Record, and Last Kiss are the only songs that I still really love. Vocally, though, it's definitely not on par with TEOM or Memoirs. 
Oh WOW!  I really respect your opinion but I just cannot see (at least for me) how E=MC2 is "miles" ahead of Emotions. I think Emotions is a classic album in her catalogue....it's soulful, diverse, and has absolute amazing vocals along with some of her most haunting material (i.e. "The Wind").  For me, E=MC2 isn't even in the same league on any level with Emotions because I don't think anything on it even compares to songs like Emotions, Can't Let Go, and Make It Happen.  That being said, I totally respect your opinion as I am sure many other fans would agree with you!

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Mar 18 10 9:39 PM

Really?? Again?! It's all a matter of taste. These are opinions, not facts.

Can't Let Go is one of my favorite Mariah songs of all-time. Emotions is great, and I enjoy The Wind and If It's Over sometimes. Overall, though, I like more tracks on E=MC2. The same goes for Music Box: AYNAF and Dreamlover are amazing, but the rest of the record isn't that great.

In my opinion, Mariah has made five stellar albums from start to finish that i find impossible to rank: Mariah Carey, Daydream, Butterfly, TEOM, and Memoirs. E=MC2 would be my sixth, just because I'm not completely enamored with any song in particular, but I still think it's a more solid effort as a whole than Emotions. I don't know where the rest would fall, but CB would probably be last.

Nobody here is hating. You can love an artist without loving all of their output. Sh*t, Mariah doesn't even like a good majority of her back catalog on Sony.

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Mar 18 10 10:29 PM

Y'all are crazy. Emotions is Mariah's best album after Butterfly. And For The Record shits all over every song on Memoirs.

I always thought that T4N and Last Kiss were almost exactly the same song. Just way too similar.

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Mar 18 10 10:40 PM

I still love the album however it's not in the same league as Memoirs and TEOM in my opinion. It really is a collection of singles and the songs are way too short.. leaving no room for her to do her famous ad libs and runs.

Touch My Body, Cruise Control, IBLYLT and Thanx 4 Nothin' are some of my all time favorites. However, I could really do without OOC and Love Story.

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Mar 18 10 11:06 PM

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Y'all are crazy. Emotions is Mariah's best album after Butterfly. And For The Record shits all over every song on Memoirs.

I always thought that T4N and Last Kiss were almost exactly the same song. Just way too similar.
Eh, Emotions is my least favorite Mariah album overall. Some great songs, but way too much filler and overproduction. It's like the female equvilant of a Michael Bolton album. I too MUCH prefer E=MC2.

  

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Mar 19 10 4:45 AM

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^ I think the vocal production was E's biggest fault, as you say, pretty much every song had the same vocal; several layers and ending with her belting on top of the main vocal. Had she mixed it up more vocally and done more complex arrangements, the album would've come across as more diverse.
That is, I have to agree, it's biggest weakness..she basically just shoots up an entire octave on each on the climaxes, which get's a bit tired.
I appreciated that she varied more with her vocals on the Memoirs album.

  




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Mar 19 10 4:46 AM

Ginger1 wrote:
Y'all are crazy. Emotions is Mariah's best album after Butterfly. And For The Record shits all over every song on Memoirs.

I always thought that T4N and Last Kiss were almost exactly the same song. Just way too similar.
Emotions is a good album overall, but it's songs like "To be around you" "So blessed" & "So cold" that totally ruin it for me..those are probaply my least favourite MC songs ever.

  




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Mar 19 10 6:32 AM

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Can't nobody, can't nobody tell me NOTHIN' cos "Cruise Control" is still my MF'in jam!

The 2nd verse is ri-dic-u-lous (in a good way)!
I love it too!  It sounds sooo good to bump it in the car on a hot summer day!

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Mar 19 10 8:02 AM

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Her second best after da debut.
I believe its far better than da overrated Butterfly



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Mar 19 10 8:27 AM

My only criticism of this album is that its too polished. Had the songs been longer and varied in song structure, they would've had a longer shelf life. This is something very interesting about Mariah's songs post-TEOM actually. Pre-TEOM there were little instrumental breaks, say in between the chorus and the next verse, now its like she cannot waste those two seconds. She has to layer the start of the second verse as soon as the chorus ends, and layer the bridge as soon as the second chorus ends. (I Stay in Love is most guilty of this)

Also, pre-TEOM, there was a longer (albeit less busy) climax and resolution to her songs. On E=MC2 in particular, the climaxes feel particularly crammed into one verse. It works on songs like WBT for example, because they leave you yearning for more, but when it goes on for a whole album, the album is gonna feel like it was lacking something you were waiting for. The whole thing that makes a Mariah Carey song different from these other singers is that her adlibs at the end of a song are really natural, fluid and melodic. But its hard to notice those adlibs when they are crammed into 30 seconds, one adlib over the other, rather than one adlib after the other.

Does she do this things consciously or not? I don't know. Someone from her team probably told her that her songs on CB ran for too long, because there was an obvious change on her song structure from there. I've noticed that the songs most people here still love are the ones that doesn't suffer as much from this complex. The ones that have a proper climax and ending. These songs are "I Wish You Well" and "For The Record" Thank God, she seemed to have eased up on this "Make my song as short as possible for the ADHD people complex" on Memoirs.

Despite all these song structure issues, E=MC2 still is a very solid album. For me E=MC2 is more than just a collection of songs. It really reflects her state of mind circa 2007-2008.

This album represents a rich, successful hot single woman, out to have fun, yet still looking for love and reflective of her past sorrows, relationships and sufferings. Some songs are not that deep, whilst others are reflective. Either way, it perfectly sums up Mariah Carey at that time.

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Mar 19 10 9:05 AM

Just listened to E again, and half of it still sounds fresh, like I am listening to it for the first time. I don't have that with Memoirs

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Mar 19 10 9:11 AM

i love E=MC2 more the memoirs in a way that the album stands on its own, to me it flows better than Memoirs

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Mar 19 10 9:16 AM

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i love E=MC2 more the memoirs in a way that the album stands on its own, to me it flows better than Memoirs


   I like the album better too, but it does NOT flow better then Memoirs. The good thing about MOAIA is it's sequencing, her best sequenced album since Butterfly.




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Mar 19 10 9:16 AM

iMariah wrote:
WiseGuyC wrote:
Can't nobody, can't nobody tell me NOTHIN' cos "Cruise Control" is still my MF'in jam!

The 2nd verse is ri-dic-u-lous (in a good way)!

I love it too!  It sounds sooo good to bump it in the car on a hot summer day!

Exactly! It's definitely one of her best bump-in-the-car tracks. However, one should exercise extreme caution when trying to mimic the Jamaican accent.

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Mar 19 10 9:17 AM

WiseGuyC wrote:
iMariah wrote:
WiseGuyC wrote:
Can't nobody, can't nobody tell me NOTHIN' cos "Cruise Control" is still my MF'in jam!

The 2nd verse is ri-dic-u-lous (in a good way)!

I love it too!  It sounds sooo good to bump it in the car on a hot summer day!

Exactly! It's definitely one of her best bump-in-the-car tracks. However, one should exercise extreme caution when trying to mimic the Jamaican accent.


Yeahhh I totally agree, fans totally underrate this song, it's the bomb!




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Mar 19 10 4:28 PM

MC2 is my favorite out of the last 3 releases, followed by Memoirs.

Emancipation, aside from a few songs, i got so burned of about a year after it's release. i just never seek out that record.

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