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Jan 13 10 5:22 PM

I have the (scary) feeling she'll do fine this time around.
I must say I found "You Are What You Are", "Genie 2.0" and that song that was on some soundtrack last year quite enjoyable.
Her collaborators are all great artists. Too good for this skank really.

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Jan 13 10 5:53 PM

has she had a big single since Itunes blew up? is there a chance she will do what Britney's "3" did - go in straight at #1 off itunes hype sales. does she have that draw/attraction?


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Jan 13 10 6:01 PM

when is this leaking UGH

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Jan 13 10 6:31 PM

Greg wrote:
has she had a big single since Itunes blew up? is there a chance she will do what Britney's "3" did - go in straight at #1 off itunes hype sales. does she have that draw/attraction?


No. Her last single flopped in sales, none of her (digital) singles have sold very well, and her last few singles have struggled to even make the Top 10 at Pop radio (in contrast to Britney who does exceptionally well at Pop radio).

 

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Jan 13 10 8:31 PM

BeyondIdolization wrote:
Greg wrote:
has she had a big single since Itunes blew up? is there a chance she will do what Britney's "3" did - go in straight at #1 off itunes hype sales. does she have that draw/attraction?


No. Her last single flopped in sales, none of her (digital) singles have sold very well, and her last few singles have struggled to even make the Top 10 at Pop radio (in contrast to Britney who does exceptionally well at Pop radio).
I wouldn't say Britney does 'exceptionally well at Pop radio'. As of late she's done better, but Radar flopped in between the three Circus singles and 3. Historically, Britney hasn't done that well at Pop radio, out of the 26 singles she's released literally only half of them even made the Top 15 (she only has 11 Top 10 hits - one less than P!nk and only one more than Christina with 7-10 more singles released).





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Jan 13 10 8:35 PM

Greg wrote:
has she had a big single since Itunes blew up? is there a chance she will do what Britney's "3" did - go in straight at #1 off itunes hype sales. does she have that draw/attraction?
I doubt it. Christina's popularity is waning with every release (so far). Ain't No Other Man and Keeps Getting Better only made it to #6 and #7 on the Billboard Hot 100, meanwhile the second single from Britney's last album (Circus) even managed a #3 peak on the Billboard Hot 100.



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Jan 14 10 2:26 AM

you're all waiting to watch her fall - and set really high expectations for the woman... she'll do fine - you will still discredit her. Its cool.

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Jan 14 10 7:31 AM

mariahfan150 wrote:
Greg wrote:
has she had a big single since Itunes blew up? is there a chance she will do what Britney's "3" did - go in straight at #1 off itunes hype sales. does she have that draw/attraction?
I doubt it. Christina's popularity is waning with every release (so far). Ain't No Other Man and Keeps Getting Better only made it to #6 and #7 on the Billboard Hot 100, meanwhile the second single from Britney's last album (Circus) even managed a #3 peak on the Billboard Hot 100.




Thats better than I thought with Keeps Getting Better though. I know it didn't perform amazing but it seems the songs from the new album are going to be in that kind of vein which could bode well for her. Lets face it, she's choosen a very good time to pay 'tribute' to electro pop with Gaga doing so well. Five years ago it could have been a very dodgy move.

If the singles are as good or better than KGB then she could easily ride the Gaga wave to decent success.

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Jan 14 10 10:24 AM

^she will fall on her face if she tries to do anything Gagaesque. She already got crucified just for wearing bangs (which she had every right to - Gaga looked like HER in the Just Dance video which was a thematic copy of the Dirrrty video)


People aren't going to give Christina ANY leeway. The best thing for her to do is to just put out a great album with good melodies and great videos like she always does. She has an ardent fan base which will get the album Gold and all she really needs is a solid Top 10 hit, and some love from the Grammy's - and a tour - and she's golden. She doesn't need to take over and be this commerical monster cuz she never was one.

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Jan 14 10 1:15 PM

i'm really interested in the project. here's to hoping that she stays more dance than pop, more goldfrapp than dr. luke.


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Jan 15 10 3:04 PM

Lol trying to discredit Christina.
B2B sold 1.6 mill in the US and did well WW.
ANOM hit the Top 10 and I believe Hurt hit Top 20.
Her Tour was a WW SMASH!
Her hits collection did ok for Target and had a fast dropping Top 10 hit, yes. But, there's still interest in her. I constanty see her everywhere.

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Jan 15 10 4:40 PM

^its only a select pack of wolves here that get ravenously jealous of her and develop a sick sense of humor making fun of her... The funniest is when they try to discredit her talent and relevance.

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Jan 15 10 4:48 PM

its all about perspective. I don't rank the importance of artists in charts or sales. As far as female singers that are important -- she's one of them.

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Jan 15 10 6:55 PM

CLo wrote:
its all about perspective. I don't rank the importance of artists in charts or sales. As far as female singers that are important -- she's one of them.
That's fine, but then you have to understand that your "rankings" will matter to you and you alone, unlike charts and sales, which can be acknowledged by everyone. So stop trying to convince us all that Christina is this super "important" artist when she's only important to you.

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Jan 15 10 8:00 PM

rainbow1199 wrote:
CLo wrote:
its all about perspective. I don't rank the importance of artists in charts or sales. As far as female singers that are important -- she's one of them.
That's fine, but then you have to understand that your "rankings" will matter to you and you alone, unlike charts and sales, which can be acknowledged by everyone. So stop trying to convince us all that Christina is this super "important" artist when she's only important to you.



about 98% of the greatest singers of all time have absolutely BOGUS and nonexistant chart and sales stats. Understand that I know what I'm talking about and least of all you - someone who's musical taste has shown to have no respect for actual vocals - will be able to write my "opinion" off. Anyone that at the very least has a casual appreciation for the art and technique of singing, has to unequivocally include Christina Aguilera as a world class vocalist. Point blank. You're right - there is no billboard chart around that can rank whos a better singer etc. but half a century of encyclopedic, documented information, countless critical literature and a global community of music connoisseurs have defined a distinct barometer of greatness. Christina meets the already established criteria. In regards to great female vocalists - Christina Aguilera - is on the list - whether you like it or not. the fact that the next 50 years will have Christina already established in the echelon of great singers, a voice which young new talent will undoubtedly be influenced by already cements her relevance. If Christina Aguilera isn't relevant - then neither is Billie Holiday or Judy Garland.

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Jan 15 10 8:27 PM

CLo wrote:
rainbow1199 wrote:
CLo wrote:
its all about perspective. I don't rank the importance of artists in charts or sales. As far as female singers that are important -- she's one of them.
That's fine, but then you have to understand that your "rankings" will matter to you and you alone, unlike charts and sales, which can be acknowledged by everyone. So stop trying to convince us all that Christina is this super "important" artist when she's only important to you.



about 98% of the greatest singers of all time have absolutely BOGUS and nonexistant chart and sales stats. Understand that I know what I'm talking about and least of all you - someone who's musical taste has shown to have no respect for actual vocals - will be able to write my "opinion" off. Anyone that at the very least has a casual appreciation for the art and technique of singing, has to unequivocally include Christina Aguilera as a world class vocalist. Point blank. You're right - there is no billboard chart around that can rank whos a better singer etc. but half a century of encyclopedic, documented information, countless critical literature and a global community of music connoisseurs have defined a distinct barometer of greatness. Christina meets the already established criteria. In regards to great female vocalists - Christina Aguilera - is on the list - whether you like it or not. the fact that the next 50 years will have Christina already established in the echelon of great singers, a voice which young new talent will undoubtedly be influenced by already cements her relevance. If Christina Aguilera isn't relevant - then neither is Billie Holiday or Judy Garland.
imageYou're actually way more delusional about Christina than you are about Mariah...here's a fun fact for you- despite having about a tenth of her vocal talent, Britney Spears will be remembered far after Christina becomes the answer to a pop culture trivia question. Influence and relevance sometimes have nothing to do with voice. I see no evidence that would show that Christina is any more influential than Leona Lewis.

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Jan 15 10 8:32 PM

you wouldn't... you're obviously disregarding any assemblance of reason or logic in attempting to dispute me. You think young singers are gonna put on a Britney Spears record to learn how to sing? Gimme a break and get a clue. -- by the looks of your last fm -- I can see how pointless this is to even discuss with you. You're highly unqualified to even have this discussion.

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