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Jun 7 10 4:37 PM

esettle0 wrote:
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I find my life very fulfilling.  Christina is not a better person than me because she's a celebrity.

I'm sure you do. I didn't say your (or anyone's) life is valueless and I'm not defending her for being a celebrity or whatever she is. It's just those tired/childish ravings I'm seeing whenever someone tends to say something positive/favorable about her work and material. (Notice, I'm not saying anything about her personality 'cause my thoughts are mainly no different than most of the ones I'm reading here.)

No offence, but I started to think there must really be some serious reasons/insecurities behind this permanent bashings on her. It's not just hate or fun; it's something more serious that only those people can figure out.

Anyway, really. I'm sorry for saying that I liked her performance.
Don't be sorry for saying you liked that performance!  While I may not share that opinion, I think you should be free to speak your mind and people should respect that.  It seems lately, if some people here don't agree with your opinion, they feel the need to put you down and laugh at your comments.  We all need to stand up for that.

And I have to agree, the Christina hate has crossed the line.  I don't particularly like her whatsoever, but I feel bad for people who do, and have to put up with this.  As with many things, it was funny in the beginning, but ya'll need to move on to something new.


The only thing I don't really like is the title of this thread. If some of us hate her and want to bash her, then that's our right. The same goes for if you like her and want to praise her. But the title of this thread is not clear as to who this topic is about. I feel like a new member, or someone that does not visit the Ohter Artist forum regularly could be confused and not even know this was a Christina topic from the title of it.

Plus I mean, first and foremost this is a Mariah Carey forum so we are dealing with Mariah fans. and Christina has publicly dissed Mariah more than once, so some ill-will toward her should be expected.... even if she wasn't a total b!tch with the worst personality in music history.
  




She wasn't the only singer/celebrity who has dissed Mariah but I don't see the hate of the 'others' like Christina gets it here.
Like who? I mean Madonna is an ICON, its hard to hate her for too long. Plus she has praised Mariah in recent years and said how much she liked TMB. Whitney and Mariah are cool now so that little beef is done. Everyone else that has talked about her negatively are irrelevant. And I was over Christina dissing her until she brought it up AGAIN when she was promoting her GH Collection. After that she was dead to me.

And what makes Christina's disses to Mariah so bothersome is that this chick came out praising her and much of her vocal stylings are inspired by Mariah. So for someone like Etta James to suddenly become her biggest inspration.....I just want to kick her in her mouth   





Yeah and if you believe those so-called compliments, you are being as naive those others who believe it.

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rainbow1199

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Jun 7 10 4:39 PM

^ Why would Madonna go out of her way to praise 'TMB' disingenuously? Do you really think she gives a f*ck what Mariah fans think of her?

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Jun 7 10 4:46 PM

Thread title is fixed since it's bothering people so much.



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Colson

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Jun 7 10 4:49 PM

^I could care less what she thinks of 'Mariah' fans' opinions? She could 'disappear' literally off the face of the earth at this point, whichever way possible, and I could give a damn. So now, what?

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esettle0

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Jun 7 10 4:52 PM

kevo2002 wrote:
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Like who? I mean Madonna is an ICON, its hard to hate her for too long. Plus she has praised Mariah in recent years and said how much she liked TMB. Whitney and Mariah are cool now so that little beef is done. Everyone else that has talked about her negatively are irrelevant. And I was over Christina dissing her until she brought it up AGAIN when she was promoting her GH Collection. After that she was dead to me.

And what makes Christina's disses to Mariah so bothersome is that this chick came out praising her and much of her vocal stylings are inspired by Mariah. So for someone like Etta James to suddenly become her biggest inspration.....I just want to kick her in her mouth   

Did you not watch the interview? The Prodigy is now her biggest inspiration.



lol, no, I cant stomach Christina interviews....what's The Prodigy?

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mariahfan150

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Jun 7 10 4:54 PM

The thing is, Christina has problems with EVERYONE (Mariah, P!nk, Mary, Beyoncé, Britney etc.) but that's not even why I don't like her as a person. I have never once heard anyone say anything good about her, except for some producer of the moment. Anyways, I could care less about artists talking about artists.

I don't like her because there's nothing original in the slightest about her, meanwhile she really thinks she's the greatest thing walking the earth with only two hit records to her name. At least with Madonna she (her persona) was original, there was no female artist like her before her. To me, Madonna was authentic (until the whole lady of the manor, uber philanthropist bullshit of the past 10-15 years) and she is actually intelligent (not posing as someone's who's intelligent and failing miserably) self-deprecating and honest about herself at times. Christina is none of that, but I still bought all of her studio albums up to this one.



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esettle0

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Jun 7 10 4:55 PM

Colson wrote:
esettle0 wrote:
Colson wrote:



esettle0 wrote:



iMariah wrote:






muratmc wrote:






Ginger1 wrote:




I find my life very fulfilling.  Christina is not a better person than me because she's a celebrity.

I'm sure you do. I didn't say your (or anyone's) life is valueless and I'm not defending her for being a celebrity or whatever she is. It's just those tired/childish ravings I'm seeing whenever someone tends to say something positive/favorable about her work and material. (Notice, I'm not saying anything about her personality 'cause my thoughts are mainly no different than most of the ones I'm reading here.)

No offence, but I started to think there must really be some serious reasons/insecurities behind this permanent bashings on her. It's not just hate or fun; it's something more serious that only those people can figure out.

Anyway, really. I'm sorry for saying that I liked her performance.
Don't be sorry for saying you liked that performance!  While I may not share that opinion, I think you should be free to speak your mind and people should respect that.  It seems lately, if some people here don't agree with your opinion, they feel the need to put you down and laugh at your comments.  We all need to stand up for that.

And I have to agree, the Christina hate has crossed the line.  I don't particularly like her whatsoever, but I feel bad for people who do, and have to put up with this.  As with many things, it was funny in the beginning, but ya'll need to move on to something new.


The only thing I don't really like is the title of this thread. If some of us hate her and want to bash her, then that's our right. The same goes for if you like her and want to praise her. But the title of this thread is not clear as to who this topic is about. I feel like a new member, or someone that does not visit the Ohter Artist forum regularly could be confused and not even know this was a Christina topic from the title of it.

Plus I mean, first and foremost this is a Mariah Carey forum so we are dealing with Mariah fans. and Christina has publicly dissed Mariah more than once, so some ill-will toward her should be expected.... even if she wasn't a total b!tch with the worst personality in music history.
  




She wasn't the only singer/celebrity who has dissed Mariah but I don't see the hate of the 'others' like Christina gets it here.
Like who? I mean Madonna is an ICON, its hard to hate her for too long. Plus she has praised Mariah in recent years and said how much she liked TMB. Whitney and Mariah are cool now so that little beef is done. Everyone else that has talked about her negatively are irrelevant. And I was over Christina dissing her until she brought it up AGAIN when she was promoting her GH Collection. After that she was dead to me.

And what makes Christina's disses to Mariah so bothersome is that this chick came out praising her and much of her vocal stylings are inspired by Mariah. So for someone like Etta James to suddenly become her biggest inspration.....I just want to kick her in her mouth   





Yeah and if you believe those so-called compliments, you are being as naive those others who believe it.
I think Madonna really did like TMB. But compliments dont have to be genuine in this case, its just a matter of her showing Mariah some respect.   

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Jun 7 10 5:00 PM

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Thread title is fixed since it's bothering people so much.
I could have lived with: Christina Aguliera Bionic Era Thread: Down With the Clown!!!!

I just wanted to see her name in the title lol.
  

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mariahfan150

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Jun 7 10 5:04 PM

What's funny about the whole thing is, Madonna was asked a question and she answered it unfiltered. Mariah didn't even like who she was as an artist herself back when it was said. . People really need to look up the definition of 'fake', because that was anything but 'fake'. 'Fake' would have been like Whitney in 1998 who acted like her and Mariah were great friends, when she had made well disguised disses at her before and possibly after that (I still don't know exactly what she meant when she said, 'I feel like Mariah' on that GH DVD in 2000).



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Jun 7 10 5:05 PM

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'Bionic' (the song) is so damn good. Love the "Are you ready, ready, ready to go-g-g-go?" part before the chorus.
That's the only bit that caught my attention during her performance.

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mariahfan150

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Jun 7 10 5:07 PM

esettle0 wrote:
And what makes Christina's disses to Mariah so bothersome is that this chick came out praising her and much of her vocal stylings are inspired by Mariah. So for someone like Etta James to suddenly become her biggest inspration.....I just want to kick her in her mouth   
I know. That's so annoying.



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Jun 7 10 5:09 PM

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What's funny about the whole thing is, Madonna was asked a question and she answered it unfiltered. Mariah didn't even like who she was as an artist herself back when it was said. . People really need to look up the definition of 'fake', because that was anything but 'fake'. 'Fake' would have been like Whitney in 1998 who acted like her and Mariah were great friends, when she had made well disguised disses at her before and possibly after that (I still don't know exactly what she meant when she said, 'I feel like Mariah' on that GH DVD in 2000).
Yea, did you see that Oprah interview I posted a few days ago?  They were totally buddy-buddy!
Perhaps they were at the time, who knows.

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Jun 7 10 5:10 PM

^ Mariah never said how they were the greatest of girl friends like Whitney did in many interviews at the time. Mariah probably looked up to her or whatever, but I don't think Mariah said or thought they were great friends.



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Jun 7 10 5:12 PM

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The thing is, Christina has problems with EVERYONE (Mariah, P!nk, Mary, Beyoncé, Britney etc.) but that's not even why I don't like her as a person. I have never once heard anyone say anything good about her, except for some producer of the moment. Anyways, I could care less about artists talking about artists.

I don't like her because there's nothing original in the slightest about her, meanwhile she really thinks she's the greatest thing walking the earth with only two hit records to her name. At least with Madonna she (her persona) was original, there was no female artist like her before her. To me, Madonna was authentic (until the whole lady of the manor, uber philanthropist bullshit of the past 10-15 years) and she is actually intelligent (not posing as someone's who's intelligent and failing miserably) self-deprecating and honest about herself at times. Christina is none of that, but I still bought all of her studio albums up to this one.
Well put.  Agreed.  As I've said before, arrogance (especially without cause) is the worst turn-off!

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Jun 7 10 5:14 PM

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^ Mariah never said how they were the greatest of girl friends like Whitney did in many interviews at the time. Mariah probably looked up to her or whatever, but I don't think Mariah said or thought they were great friends.
Right.  But I didn't feel any hard feelings on the side of Mariah either, they seemed to have gotten along really well during that interview.  They kept joking and laughing with each other the whole time.

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Jun 7 10 5:14 PM

Yes but I'll never forget that interview when a guy asked her: What do you think about Mariah Carey?
Whitney: What do I think of her? i DON'T think of her - puts on arrogant face.

Now you won't see someone like Celine doing that.
It was hilarious though.

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esettle0

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Jun 7 10 5:15 PM

mariahfan150 wrote:
The thing is, Christina has problems with EVERYONE (Mariah, P!nk, Mary, Beyoncé, Britney etc.) but that's not even why I don't like her as a person. I have never once heard anyone say anything good about her, except for some producer of the moment. Anyways, I could care less about artists talking about artists.

I don't like her because there's nothing original in the slightest about her, meanwhile she really thinks she's the greatest thing walking the earth with only two hit records to her name. At least with Madonna she (her persona) was original, there was no female artist like her before her. To me, Madonna was authentic (until the whole lady of the manor, uber philanthropist bullshit of the past 10-15 years) and she is actually intelligent (not posing as someone's who's intelligent and failing miserably) self-deprecating and honest about herself at times. Christina is none of that, but I still bought all of her studio albums up to this one.


Well stated. Even if Christina never dissed Mariah, things like this make me despise her. I loved her during her debut album era when she was still aware that she sh!t stinked.

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esettle0

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Jun 7 10 5:16 PM

DutchLamb wrote:
Yes but I'll never forget that interview when a guy asked her: What do you think about Mariah Carey?
Whitney: What do I think of her? i DON'T think of her - puts on arrogant face.

Now you won't see someone like Celine doing that.
It was hilarious though.
so wait, this is only diss I was aware of lol, theres more?

  

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Colson

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Jun 7 10 5:16 PM

It doesn't matter what she said about TMB, die was cast once she insulted Mariah during the Daydream era. That cannot be erased no matter what fake comments she's made years latter.

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