MisplacedValidity wrote:
mcfan wrote:For one I hardly think songs like 'Underneath the Stars' or 'Never Forget You' were heavily promoted by Sony at Urban radio. The focus was more on their Pop counterparts 'Forever' and 'Without You'.
'Anytime You Need a Friend' was her first underperforming single at Pop radio, it was not going to do amazing at Urban radio.
'Crybaby' cannot be used as a valid example at all. It was released between all the drama and as Nick said it got to where it got thanks to West Coast support alone, which is considerable.
The Butterfly era was also handled poorly in general by Sony after 'Honey' (#4). 'Breakdown' was #13 on R&B Airplay though and 'My All' was another top 20 hit.
After TEOM, Mariah released poppy singles and I'm not surprised they didn't support them after 'Touch My Body' (#2). It was like Mariah had done a loyalty deal with them (talking about how R&B success was important to her, how her wins in the R&B categories at the Grammys meant more, releasing a format-specific single) only to break it shortly after.
'Bye Bye' was entirely too Pop for the Urban landscape at the time; 'I'll Be Lovin'U Long Time' was a bigger hit at Rhythmic but by then the flop curse was in full force.
'Obsessed' is the only single I think they didn't support enough.
I also believe that Mariah's labels have done a terrible job with Urban AC radio, often not bothering to send her songs there. After 'Fly Like a Bird' they should've started catering to that format more imo. Half of the Memoirs album would've been played by those stations, but they didn't even try.
If R&B radio truly loved her, she wouldn't need a lot of promotion to do well.
In re: to "AYNAF" are you saying R&B radio followed Pop's lead? That's how it reads.
How many West Coast stations played "Crybaby?"
You basically have excuses for every song

The reality is, though, if R&B radio was truly supportive of her they would have jumped on some of those singles regardless.
If all you got from my post is that I have excuses for everything, then I'm truly disappointed.
For some reason, you are refusing to think that your point of view may be inaccurate and it's not usual of you. 
Everything isn't black or white. I'm trying to provide a different point of view. I don't think I typed a bunch of nonsense here.
The truth of the matter is, it all comes down to how Mariah has been perceived throughout her career: while her debut and Emotions was received well by R&B radio, by 1993 she was way marketed in a more Pop-oriented way. Then when she started making R&B music again she started being received quite well again. Radio won't play songs their listeners don't want to hear and that was especially true in Mariah's heyday (not now that it's all about politics). Those songs you mentioned were probably received poorly because Mariah's image went towards another direction at the time. In any case her history with R&B radio is not to be dismissed like you did. It's probably more consistent than her history with CHR who abandoned her as soon as she changed her image and never really embraced her again until she had a HUGE album. Look how fickle it has been since 1997.