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Jan 4 09 9:19 PM

BeyondIdolization wrote:
ArabianLamb wrote:
BeyondIdolization wrote:
ArabianLamb wrote:
rainbow1199 wrote:
BeyondIdolization wrote:
rainbow1199 wrote:
BeyondIdolization wrote:
Not her best album imo, but a great and very solid one. Whether an album is a great body of work should be judged on its consistency and cohesion. Unfortunately there are ignorant people (some in this very thread) that fail to grasp that concept, and let their own dated view on what music "should" sound like (and particularly, Mariah's music) cloud their judgement. But, really, that is their loss and not something worth contemplating.


What if something is consistently mediocre? image

Well, that's not the case here so we don't have to discuss that. image I can understand the criticisms of the ballads on E=MC2 to an extent, but to completely dismiss the album is just silly. There's some really interesting work here, which everyone seemed to agree on until the album started underperforming.


I don't really see your point there- as far as I'm concerned, there are still plenty of fans praising the album despite it underperforming. The existence of this thread is proof positive. The only thing this era that had a complete opposite reaction following its performance was 'Bye Bye', probably because people view it as the murderer of the success of the record. I became disillusioned with it two weeks after it was released, which most would agree was before it underperformed. And I agree that there's some interesting stuff- but as an album, while cohesive, it's one of her least compelling imo.

Yes completely agree, as an album its just...there, nothing amazing, nothing timeless...just okay material, with okay vocals. Mediocre is the best word to describe the album by far.

Contenders for her best albums include Butterfly, Daydream, Debut and TEOM.


LOL Fake. You used to say it was better vocally than TEOM. image

It is better vocally but I just dont like it as an album anymore, comparing the meoldies and songs to TEOM, it fails.


So, if E=MC2's vocals are "okay", yet better than TEOM's, what does that make TEOM's vocals in your opinion? Bad? Terrible? See, this is what I'm talking about. It's never healthy to completely dismiss a body of work. It's the same with people completely dismissing Charmbracelet.; most works have aspects that are good and others that could be better.
TEOMs vocals are good at some points (WBT, FLAB etc), but mostly bad/terrible (YG, MA, STN etc). With TEOM its strong points aren't with the vocals but its melodies and overall cohesiveness. With CB its strong point is def its brilliant lyrics yet its extremely poor vocals and production take it to the bottom of my list.