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Jan 26 07 5:00 PM

The point being that even early on

Chris was outselling Taylor. Wasn't Taylor's album only ahead of Chris' album for 1 week (maybe 2)? And didn't both albums sell about the same in the debut week? It's not like Taylor was off to some great start and then fell fast when no single kicked in. Chris, however, has been selling steadily since his album dropped.

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Jan 26 07 6:01 PM

No, it came out 3 weeks later.

Daughtry took full advantage of Holiday sales (not to mention that he had a single for support too). Taylor came out when Holiday season was wrapping up without a single. Of course, who's going to sell more?

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It's not like Taylor was off to some great start and then fell fast when no single kicked in.


??? Huh? Taylor had a great start. He debuted @ #2 (and it wasnt like a weak Dreamgirls like sales week either :p ). He did fall fast due to there not being a single.

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Chris, however, has been selling steadily since his album dropped.


Of course he's been steady, because the single came out shortly after the album was released.

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Jan 27 07 1:55 PM

Notice I was talking about chart position

Chris never left the top 10-15, but Taylor was out of there in 3-4 weeks. It's just been in the past few weeks that Chris' song kicked in, yet his album had been hanging in and near the top 10 that whole time.

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Of course he's been steady, because the single came out shortly after the album was released.

But the single only just recently made any sort of big impact; do you really think it was helping sales when it only had 5-10 million impressions?

Taylor's single came out last week, so I guess we will see him jump into the top 20 in the next week or two, right?

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Jan 27 07 2:42 PM

I'm talking about chart position too. What did you think

I was talking about?

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But the single only just recently made any sort of big impact; do you really think it was helping sales when it only had 5-10 million impressions?


Of course. Then it reached 20 million soon after. Don't forget, that is relatively good airplay for a rock song on the rise. Most rock songs if they're lucky, don't even get past 40-50 million impressions, so 10-20 is plenty for support.

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Taylor's single came out last week, so I guess we will see him jump into the top 20 in the next week or two, right?


No, like I said before , it might be too late. Two months late is harsh. But if they had sent the single shortly after the album was released, it's way more likely the album would still be in the Top 20.

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Jan 27 07 8:13 PM

And I've mentioned before that his album never left the Top

11 either. The Holiday Sales thing was just mentioned as more support to why Chris is doing better overall

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Jan 28 07 2:02 AM

taylor and fantasia were fun to watch

however, they were never able to carry what they had on stage onto cd. i agree with simon about the gray hair. i think people wanted to be a bit rebelious and vote for someone who would have never been considered under normal conditions.

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Jan 28 07 12:41 PM

And my point was that back in December

Chris' song wasn't doing much, so I don't see why that is an excuse for his album doing better than Taylor's all along. Now? Yes. Back then? Not to me.

Didn't My Chemical Romance slide down kinda quickly (I know it fell out of the top 40) but then rebound as "WTTBP" caught on at Pop radio (it's now top 30)? Chris has had better staying power despite not having a video out at first and despite his song not doing any better than "WTTBP" at any format until 1-2 weeks ago.

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Jan 28 07 4:36 PM

How was Chris's song not doing much in Decemeber?

Like I said before, that is normal airplay for a rock song on the rise, and much better than most rock songs. Dont forget, rock songs arent like urban hits which mostly all go at least past 100 and can jump like 20 million in a week.

I haven't been following MCR's B200 run, but The Red Hot Chili Peppers stayed in the Top 40 for several weeks, and their overall airplay wasn't great and neither was their pop airplay for Dani California.

Fall Out Boy's airplay isn't that high either and isnt really growing either. Their album is coming out soon. Are you saying they're just going to drop like nobody's business too?

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Jan 28 07 10:42 PM

What format was it impacting in a big way in

December? It's just now #18 on Mainstream Rock (not yet top 20 at Modern Rock), and it didn't crack the top 20-30 of Pop radio until the past month. How was it doing something in December?

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Like I said before, that is normal airplay for a rock song on the rise, and much better than most rock songs. Dont forget, rock songs arent like urban hits which mostly all go at least past 100 and can jump like 20 million in a week.

And most rock albums with songs outside the top 20 don't stay in the top 10 for weeks.
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Fall Out Boy's airplay isn't that high either and isnt really growing either. Their album is coming out soon. Are you saying they're just going to drop like nobody's business too?

We'll see.

My point is that something was keeping Daughtry's album selling while Taylor's fell, and I don't see where Daughtry's single had impacted in a big enough way (especially since it lacked a video) back in December to explain the album staying in and right near the top 10.

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Jan 31 07 2:15 AM

I thought we were talking overall impressions?

It wasnt #1 at any format, but combined its audience was decent in December.

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And most rock albums with songs outside the top 20 don't stay in the top 10 for weeks.


I thought we were talking about the Top 40? Most albums, regardless of genre or amount of impressions dont stay in the Top 10 that long.

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My point is that something was keeping Daughtry's album selling while Taylor's fell, and I don't see where Daughtry's single had impacted in a big enough way (especially since it lacked a video) back in December to explain the album staying in and right near the top 10.


How many impressions would satisify you in terms of keeping an album in The Top 10? Even in January, before the video came out, the album was still in the Top 11, so I don't see how the video dramatically impacted sales. (It did help the digital download increase dramtically though)

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Feb 2 07 11:59 AM

He'll probably make the top 12

But doesn't he have an unfair advantage b/c he did sing back up for Anastacia and Christina Aguilera?

With that kind of resume, he should be great. I would judge him on a different level than the others. He really better bring it when they go to Hollywood.

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Feb 2 07 2:13 PM

Re: He'll probably make the top 12

i agree with u. he should definately be judged more then someone just starting off. he is already a pro.

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Feb 2 07 3:10 PM

This is not a topic, right?

:rollin

I love this forum :D

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